Can you still make money in photography?
Can you “still” make money in photography these days? Asking for a friend.
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Can you still make money in photography?
Can you “still” make money in photography these days? Asking for a friend.
Music saved me. When I was a young teen, troubled (you don’t wanna know, it was bad), lost, confused and into booze and drugs, one thing that gave my life meaning was music.
Yes, rock and roll. It was fast, furious, raunchy and powerful. Like my brain at the time. It gave me some semblance of focus and meaning.
It spoke to me. I had crates of albums and anytime I needed to escape the grind I’d peruse my selection and escape into a different universe.
Of all the bands I loved and admired- and that list is a long one IE.Queen (before they became famous), SuperTramp, Nazareth, STYX, Bad Company… on and on—– The one band that really massaged my soul was RUSH.
Why I don’t know. Their third album was considered crap by the critics and all. But I loved it!
All told, that album was true to what RUSH stood for. It was by all accounts authentic.
Maybe that’s why it spoke to me. Who knows.
So it’s without further explanation that my personal greatest concert experience was seeing RUSH in 1976 on their “Caress Of Steel” tour. Live. In person. They had just released that album.
My adrenaline was high and my excitement was wider than the bell bottoms they wore and higher than the platform shoes they strutted across the stage with.
I have often compared musicians to photographers over the years, as marketing lessons.
I’ve tried to explain to many photographers that they need to learn their craft and put as much into it as a musician does.
Many fail at this, fooling themselves into thinking they have talent and skill…..often unearned.
Mostly because they can. Cameras and photoshop allows us to cheat, so to speak.
One analogy I like to make aligns beautifully with marketing.
Let me explain it this way:
There are 3 levels of musicians…
LEVEL1- The kitchen musician. You know, they play at house parties and campfires. Good times, lots of fun and the life of many a party
LEVEL 2- Professionals. This is where you find the hardest working musicians….. Bands like KISS, U2 and many uber successful acts that sell out concerts and are loved by millions.
In this category, putting on a show is essential. Lights, smoke, and crazy antics on stage. Including epic drum solos….
and then there’s…..
LEVEL 3- Masters. This is where bands like RUSH, Neil Peart, Bob Marley, Steely Dan and many jazz musicians fit in.
These guys don’t need a big fancy show. No drum solos required. (Although everyone loves it when Neil puts out a mandatory one at most concerts.)
Truth be told, most fans would show up if they played on concrete risers, nothing more, and performed only for the sake of the music.
Musicians like Neil Young and Bob Marley fit in this category too because they created (especially Bob) a brand so big, so powerful, so deep and timeless, it becomes all about the music.
Not the show.
Let me repeat that: It becomes all about the music, not the show.
Bob Marley invented and created a whole new style of music. Who else can say that?
Neil Young is so prolific in his output, and his music so authentic, he still plays at festivals with mostly millenials.
They get him, as we did.
This, again, is timeless.
Create material that is timeless, and master your craft the way Neil Peart has mastered the drums.
If you took your skills as a photographer and were able to transmute them into a musical instrument, how good would you be?
Be honest.
Is there a way to even measure this?
If you took your skills as a photographer, brought the equal amount to say a concert violin, and stepped onto a stage, what sqawks and screeches would come forth?
I know I’d likely sound like crap. Maybe I’d put out a half decent rendition of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
At least that’s what I think. And I been at this for 39 years so far.
And I’m still rocking.
In many ways photography saved me too. In a much bigger way, since through it I was able to create a life long business and I was able to manifest lots of creative output.
But in reality, not much of this happens unless I undertake the marketing question and get serious about business matters.
Why? There are too many kitchen musicians out there, many willing to play any gig for beer and peanuts.
As a pro the only real measurement that matters is the audience and eventual take home pay.
For me I still need to market, put on a show so to speak. I may never be as good in photography as Neil Peart is on drums.
But I can try, and dream can’t I?
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”
I always said my photography studio was like a swiss army knife. A “multi-purpose” studio for lack of a better term.
Instead of specializing in a major niche, I specialize in many niches. Families, fairies, babies, commercial, weddings, boudoir, ice fairies, medieval sessions, headshots, theatre photography, seniors and more….much more.
And now pop-up weddings. (More on that in my marketing mastermind replay mentioned below)
I need to take this approach. It keeps me profitable, relevant and busy.
I could specialize and carve out a profitable niche. You know the saying, it’s true: “There are riches in niches.”
But I would need to move to a larger area where the population base would support a niche.
For now, and likely for a long time, I’ll stick around my blue collar mining community.
I’m happy here. Everyone knows me. And loves me. I know, they tell me, and they pay me.
I talked about this in the yesterday’s recorded Marketing Mastermind presentation, where I showed many of the on going marketing adventures from my own little studio in my own little community.
For members the replay is in the forum HERE
Every month I have a mastermind marketing and a mastermind lighting presentation.
It’s like nutrition for the soul and for success. I need it. I hope you do too.
See you on the inside.
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”
This ever happen to you? You dream of walking to a bridge, and chucking it all overboard, into the flowing torrent of water below?
You know, a box full of cameras, lenses and dreams.
Poof! Gone….
What a relief it would be. Get rid of the whole fucking mess.
You imagine what a relief it would be to quit the struggle. The whole shit-show.
The constant barrage of flippant stupid questions from ungrateful clients. Questions like:: “Can’t I just get all the files on a DVD??”
For peanuts. You work for peanuts.
You imagine how good it would feel to close the book on your empty calendar with few to no sessions.
Ugh. What a pain running a photography business. After you poured every last dime on gear and education, you think “Maybe it was all a lie.”
As artists, we tend to over-estimate the pleasure to be gained from quitting and UNDER-estimate the pain.
WE ALL DO IT! Be honest.
When you look in the mirror of honesty we don’t want to admit how hollowed out we became.
You think you can quit it all, turn and head the other way. But you can’t. Here’s why:
Your ambitions, your hopes, your dreams, even if somewhat delusional, were still YOURS. If you walk, you bleed.
A long slow deadening bleed.
The struggle is real. So we think. And we delude ourselves into believing it’s the photography industry.
When the truth is even uglier. Running a business is hard grueling work.
SO many don’t understand what I’m saying. Those who do have a chance at success.
DO I have to spell it out?
The biggest lie in making it in photography is simple. It’s not about the work you create. It’s all about the marketing you implement.
Get that and you have a chance. We’ve had it too good for too long.
The easy days, and the big lie that came with them, are over.
I don’t consider myself one of the lucky ones, still in business, still churning out profits and sessions even though many would consider me “over the hill” at 60.
I consider myself, still, to this day, a student of marketing. I avoid as best I can the delusion.
School is never out.
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”
It seems selling photography is getting tougher and tougher all the time. I know, I see it, experience it and witness some strange behaviors.
Questions from clients are revealing. For example, two recent scenarios from our studio and one from another studio who shall remain nameless.
“Can I come over take a cell phone picture of so and so’s family photo so I can run to Walmart and get some prints?”
Serious. This happened last week. My wife was stunned.
Another client contacts a studio and asks…..“The $150.00 credit we have towards the family session, does everyone in the family get the same $150.00 credit.”
Really?
Really.
Imagine if you will a crappy cell phone photo. Now, imagine a finely crafted portrait of the same subject. Fine, as in, ….“whoa..wish I shot that! I love that style! It’s stunning…” fine.
It seems many people don’t know the difference anymore between quality and crap.
To be fair, I am not gripping and running down grievance road. It’s important to know what’s going on in society so we can best “fix the problem”, assuming it is fixable.
So, on that note, here’s my best advice in three parts. Do this and sales will flow in your favor like water down a hill.
This is one reason I never was crazy about print competitions. Yes, yes, they help you grow and become a better photographer. But will it help you create products they want?
Know the difference. Is it ego based or strategy?
I was at one of our 3 day events a few years ago, during the night owl mastermind (everyone loved these!) and one lady was complaining about her lack of clients.
I asked her the obvious, how big is your town? About 2,000 she replied.
My advice? Move.
Get in front of the right clients. If they’re not there, you need to move to where they are, or, adjust your offerings to get the limited amount in your area to respond.
Know your market. This is the FIRST step in marketing. If you have a great product, and no one wants it, you don’t have a product. It’s that simple.
Kristi Elias is a great example. I interviewed her last year. She’s flowing in work and has an endless amount of clients because she delivers and is in the right area for her work.
I interview a lot of photographers every year because I am a student of marketing. Always will be.
And tomorrow night I am bringing in Stacey Fox. And you’re welcome to join us.
CHECK OUT her resume and the list of things she does to remain relevant in her industry.
Of course all members have access to the replay and download.
Thu, Nov 8, 2018 8:00 PM – 9:00 PM EST REGISTER HERE
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”
I noticed a trend these days. And it’s not good.
It appears many folks don’t want and don’t have much patience for family portraits.
Adults seem to hate having their picture taken. Even when with their families.
I could be wrong, but I think I’m mostly right. Priorities are changing.
Cell phones are ruining us all. In this faced paced world, the old adage is new and relevant: “People will take ease over quality everytime.”
My attitude is three fold:
It is what it is. Can’t change it, so adapt we must.
Follow the path of least resistance, water flows downhill.
Find the market that matters
And more.
Don’t get me wrong. We’re still shooting families in our studio, especially the legacy multi-generational family gatherings. It’s just that I detect these subtle changes.
A few ways through this in my oh so humble yet laser accurate opinion is to maintain promotions for families, fairies and such. Don’t sit back. Get at it! Maybe I need to work harder for each booking, but hard work never killed anyone.
Promotions and marketing are in fact the solution.
Maria S has a solution. She outlined it a few months ago when I had her on our marketing mastermind, now available for members HERE.
(one simple idea while out for her bike ride converted one simple family session into a $5,000.00 sale…pure genius!)
Fairies are a thing for us (that image above, in this email, is a current sample- one of many). I just shot over 50 in the last ten days.
We’re up to out eyeballs in fairy orders and I recently shared, as I usually do, my latest fairies workflow, with template download.
For members of course….GET IT HERE once you login.
Next week I am planning on bringing James Hodgins (he keeps bugging me, he has so much to share!) back for a marketing mastermind on selling, educating your clients, attracting the best market and creating ‘perceived’ value. And more.
More on that date coming soon.
Stay tuned, stay frosty my fiends and friends in photography.
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”
My first decade in the business of photography saw me in awe of others who, in my mind, had made it in photography. Heroes they were.
They were successful. They created amazing images. To be fair I am still in awe, but those formative years were essential since I was getting established and building.
Some made tons of cash, yet their work was ok. Others were really, really good at photography itself, and also made a decent living. All were my heroes. All inspired me to be like them or better even.
I noticed and valued it all.
As a matter of fact, I can honestly say my success can easily be attributed to watching, learning, being inspired by and “swiping” ideas, both in marketing and in photography, from others.
I don’t think there’s an area where those who sky-rocketed to success didn’t at one time start by copying another.
Musicians, authors, artists….all of them, at one time, asked themselves the question: “How can I be like that?”
If it wasn’t for that process, me thinks most grand achievements would have fizzled.
Swiping is real, legit and essential. You see someone who creates something you like. You copy, and you make it your own. It inspires you to grow into your own.
It becomes your brand, so to speak.
The worse thing you can do (and I see this all the time, within the ranks of the most amateurs who are starting out) is to let your ego get in the way, because you think you got it, you’re all that and more.
Big mistake.
Becoming a student of success in marketing and in photography is an essential step. Take it out and it’s like taking out the foundation on a building.
I’m still a student. Luckily for me I always remained somewhat naive and childlike. Ask my wife and mother-in-law. They’ll tell you how immature I really am.
It’s why I have so many videos, presentations, interviews, mastermind meetings…..every single month, year after year.
I’m looking for ideas….so I can steal.
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”
One of my favorite all time best seminars I personally experienced, first hand, like watching a master of masters in action, was way back when I organized a speaking gig with Al Gilbert.
Al did a live demo on how he shoots, poses, lights and controls a session.
He somehow he had contacted our city mayor to come out on a Sunday so he could demo his portrait strategies, on location, at our city hall.
It was amazing. All I can say. Amazing.
Al knew his stuff. His confidence, assuredness and the way he communicated to us and the subject at hand, was and is to this day one of the most important lessons I have ever learned.
One lighting strategy that Al used is called “subtractive lighting”, where he strategically placed light blockers to prevent certain ambient lighting from polluting the subject.
His exposure was such that the flash and the ambient all played a key role in the final image, which was stunning. But the light needed to be controlled. And control it he did.
This reminded me of Fuzzy Duenkel’s lighting strategies. Fuzzy is primarily a senior portrait artist and in my oh so humble yet accurate opinion the very best there is today.
Why? Well, first off, the results speak for themselves. And lighting control plays a huge part in all of this. Al, and Fuzzy are both masters of controlling light for a certain look and outcome.
You can see it in their work. I can spot it when it’s missing. I can see lack of lighting control a mile away.
Sadly, it’s pervasive in todays day and age of “everyone is a photographer.”
I never met Fuzzy, not in person anywho. But I did rope him in a few years ago to run a four part series online.
Even though I had the fortune of hosting and working with Al Gilbert 18 years ago, and he remains to this day my all time favorite event, I can honestly say my favorite ONLINE event, bar none, was the “Transcend the ordinary” with Fuzzy Duenkel.
Check it out:
Lighting is everything. Learn to see, control and master it.
Robert N. Provencher – Your Master Coach Marketer
“If you want to be a profitable and successful photographer, then study profitable and successful photographers.”